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Turbo won't turn back on after failed smoke switch attempt

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11K views 20 replies 5 participants last post by  nighthawk285  
#1 ·
First off, I'm an idiot.

I have a 2004 F250 and I've been going through trying to figure out what the previous owner had that he removed. I saw that the VGT had two wires spliced (one on each) and even though I don't care for the smoke deal, I wanted to try it since I thought that was what it was for. There was already a switch to these cheap lights all hooked up, so I connected the wires from the existing switch to the existing spliced wires. Turbo on, turbo off. No smoke. I figured it doesn't work then it was not meant to be.

I removed the wires from the spliced ends...no turbo, no high end power. I put the wires back on, turbo spools, tons of bark, kind of makes a loud stutter sound, no real high end power.

Additional info - I'm in Boise and it's 10 deg. while I'm working on it, after a while of working on it, I give up, and try and start it. Glow plugs stay on a long time and when it starts, RPMs jump to 2000 and the engine surges.

Also, SCT x4 tuner with the 60/50 tow tune. No codes. Took it to Autozone and got no codes from them either.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Daniel
 
#2 ·
First off :rofl::rofl: at the title and opening line. At least you've going into it with some humility lol. Welcome to the org.

Secondly, pictures say a thousand words, so if you could post some of your pigtail/splice areas that could help.

Do you have a monitor of any kind? Scangauge/Edge/Torque/Dashboss...anything that can read engine PIDs? Being able to read PIDs (and knowing what they mean and their relationship to each other) is going to be extremely helpful and important to keeping your blood pressure low while you own your 6.0 :D

I'm just a couple hours away in La Grande, OR.....so I know the cold you've been dealing with. Just work on what you can for a short time, take a break to warm up, and come back to it. In the meantime, take the tune back to stock and lets start chewing away at this......
 
#17 ·
Don't modify anything at this point, get everything together to make the wiring correct and go from there.
 
#18 ·
Everything is back to before I touched it. The intake won't suck air unless i hook up one wire from that harness to the one of the spliced wires. Even with the turbo hooked up like that, it won't go over 30 mph and has major bark.

So with all the wiring apart, it runs with no turbo...
 
#19 ·
What kind of intake do you have on the truck?
 
#21 ·
It would really help if you had a monitor to report numbers without one it's kinda like shooting, at a pea, in the dark, on a rollercoaster....BUT

That being said, we can still try to help make things work. What you're saying sounds like it's trying to work correctly, but somethings still wrong (obviously lol). If you unplug it and it runs but you don't get any turbo performance, that's normal. The vanes get blown wide open by the exhaust pressure and make the truck really laggy. When you plug it in, it sounds like the vanes are closing.....but then won't open like they're supposed to, so the truck is fighting the exhaust and the turbo is actually becoming a big resistance....

So.....there's a chance that you need a new VGT solenoid....

You also should check to see what the wiring around the EBP sensor is like. In most strategies, the ECM uses the EBP value to send a commanded VGT duty cycle.....so if your EBP is clogged, it won't even send a signal for the vanes to open.

EDIT: If you run it, with the turbo unplugged.....is is a laggy smokey dog until about 3000RPM then does it take off like a bat outta hell?