[SOOTIE]

After rereading you first post more carefully, I say put 10K in your current truck and watch it run circles around the new 6.7s, there is nothing like having an older vehicle that will outperform a new one that costs 2-3 times as much. As far as making it look like a 6.7, it's a matter of opinion but I think the 05-07 trucks are the best looking Super Dutys Ford has built so far, I would leave it like it is.

Run circles around the newer ones???? I would welcome any six oh to come and have a go with mine!!

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[SOOTIE]

There is carpentry work every (especially in Seattle), as a carpenter I don't foresee at any point there will be a shortage of work for me especially since they group so many people in under the title of "carpenter". The concrete guys building bridges are carpenters, roofers are carpenters, some welders are carpenters, etc. As long as I learn other aspects of the trade, I'll always be buisy. I was just lucky enough to find a traveling job right out of the gate. Will it last? I honestly don't know how it is still lasting as I'd think you could find carpenters in every part of the country and it'd be cheaper than flying me out, booking me in a hotel, and paying for my food. So long as they're willing to do that I'll keep traveling for now.

There is local work everywhere here, oddly enough I just started a 3-5 month remodel 45 mins from home and there should be another one coming up in early 2019 so I'll be home for a little bit. Once I get tired of traveling I just have to go to one of the many contractors out here and submit my resume. Plus being in the union is nice because I put my name on a out of work list and when someone needs labor they go to that board and give us a call.

My dad lived the life you just described, he used to travel all the time then my brother and I came along and within a year he quit to work local. He ended up starting his own company that didn't make it thanks to the economic downfall, and now that we're both grown he's back to traveling.

I'm not saying I'm holier than thow but alcohol and drugs probably won't have a place in my life. I watched my uncles life get destroyed by alcohol, I see my grandpas constant ups and downs due to alcohol, and I watch my ex die after ODing on heroin. There was actually a big segment on the radio about people and their vices and how "everyone has a vice" but the more I think about it, I don't have one or at least a traditional one. Before I was fueled by money, I would do anything and everything for money which is why I put an ad out on Craigslist and started working at 13/14. Now money has become more of a curse as that's all people see me for. I'm just the guy everyone wants to be buddy buddy with in hopes that I'll give them a hand out and I hate that. Guns unfortunately are no more in my life, my diet consists of rabbit food with a little chicken, and it's the same routine every day but the difference is I'm no longer motivated to go to work where before I'd bust my azz for $10/hr. Now that I make 4x that going to work is a job.

I guess my only vice really is the truck and making it how I want. I used to just go on random drives but now with my current love life that's hard because the fun part of driving was having the windows down singing to the radio but with every song being a love song it just starts the day off depressing. Working on the truck or anything broken in general is the only thing that I truely enjoy anymore because I like to figure out how things work which will be good for when I do end up getting a house.

Anyway, that was a big derailment from 6.0 vs 6.7 lol. After watching quite a few Youtube videos of mechanics takes on these trucks as well as other peoples thoughts and opinions, it seems like the general consus is either 6.0 or 6.7 Cummins. The 6.7 people are saying is a nightmare to work on which makes it expensive to add to the already expensive parts. Not to mention the 6.0 platform is 14 years old so we know every short coming and solution but the 6.7 is still throwing curveballs just because it's a new platform. I like the look of the Ram, but I like the sound of a 6.0 better and I have a better understanding on the 6.0. Enough to where I don't mind throwing a wrench at it sometimes anyway.

Personally I think ppl that claim six sevens are a nightmare to work in either haven't spent any time on the newer platform or are scared to do so. I find working on six sevens easier than six fours by a long shot and six ohs by a little bit.

I would love to know what the curveballs are that six sevens keep throwing at people? These engines have been out for longer than most other electronic diesels without significant changes if that says anything.

Don't even start on the 6.7 cummins, they are quite problematic themselves. I guess it's only one head gasket to change instead of two like a 6.0 lol

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[Rossterman]

Somewhat off target but I’d wholeheartedly recommend against a move to california. Washington and oregon are so much more affordable that there is a pretty good exodus from california of folks moving your way. Home prices are outrageous, traffic is terrible, 10% sales tax (almost), state tax, property tax, roads are poorly maintained, highest gas tax in the nation, ect, ect. Recently they announced if you make less than $117k a year and live in san francisco, you are considered at poverty level and qualify for low income programs for food and housing. True, the weather is pretty good but I’d be gone in a minute if family didnt live here.

 

[Boudah]

Not sure what I did but I got something right! Being in the union definitely jumps the wages, I'm a carpenter out of the local 30.



Been dealing with gold diggers for a bit lol, and I don't think I can fit into a Porsche 911.



I'm learning that I don't care what makes others happy because when the money stops flowing they leave. I just want a solid truck before I decide where I want to live and how much debt I want to get in. I'd like to stay in Washington but I have a feeling we're headed down the road California did and it's so expensive out here, my favorite place I've been so far is Myrtle beach so I've been thinking about moving out there. But you know... Hurricanes....



Anyway, say the house is already done and over, all I need to figure out is would a used higher mile 6.7 be a better platform than a bulletproofed 6.0? I'm leaning towards the 6.0 because in 10 years the 6.0 won't depreciate as much as the 6.7 will.



I guess another option would be to keep the truck as is and just hope it doesn't blow up but have the cash stored for if it does and get a little rat car to daily around.

I’m 6’4 you can fit into a 911. I say go that tours haha it will be cheaper all the way around. Lol.

Here’s my take keep your truck , gaskets studs


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[repalmer]

Somewhat off target but I’d wholeheartedly recommend against a move to california. Washington and oregon are so much more affordable that there is a pretty good exodus from california of folks moving your way. Home prices are outrageous, traffic is terrible, 10% sales tax (almost), state tax, property tax, roads are poorly maintained, highest gas tax in the nation, ect, ect. Recently they announced if you make less than $117k a year and live in san francisco, you are considered at poverty level and qualify for low income programs for food and housing. True, the weather is pretty good but I’d be gone in a minute if family didnt live here.

Seattle area is just as bad as commiefornia for taxes, traffic, etc. The gas tax in Washington was the same as Cali until moonbeam added the 12cents last year.

 

[Merc82]

I am at the same crossroads with my truck right now. For some reason, last week I had 3 people ask about buying my truck. I got offered $16,000. It got me thinking and looking, I can get into a 2012 6.7 with lesser miles than mine (140k currently) with the same specs, LBCC for a good price. Don't get me wrong, love my truck. I have done a ton of mods/upgrades to make it it reliable and personalize it. But maybe it is just me getting older, but I would like a quieter/more comfterable ride. It rides, well a little rough and I am getting weary of the whistle. Of coarse the best thing about the truck is that it is paid off.... I can either fix up what I got and soften the ride and change up turbos or get into another payment on something newer.

 

[john galt]

well its all personal preference to me
anytruck is goingto require some level of work
the 6.7 is a good platform but if i lived where i had to smog it
hell no
besides and i am sure the 6.7 crowd will yell and scream the the 11-16 truck are fugly
the 17 + look promisingbut
keep yohur truck keep making it yours you have no payment on it correct
thats huge
keep investing and saving some of the money you are making and building for the future.
i know at your age the future seems like it is six lifetimes away but trust me it happens faster than you think.
and you had mentioned the kia. my old neighor had one and it was actually a good little car and pretty comfortable
the one thing you do NOT want to do is gussy your truck up to look like a 6.7 hnoes:
but if you do i got dibs on your hood i put a screw through mine too early one morning to be thinking of wrenching on the truck and tightening down the bug shield thingy :doh:

 

[00t444e]

Run circles around the newer ones???? I would welcome any six oh to come and have a go with mine!!

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If he put 10K in his truck in addition to what he has already yes it will.

 

[SOOTIE]

If he put 10K in his truck in addition to what he has already yes it will.

Not. That's the best part about six sevens, it doesn't require 10k in parts to make them fast. Oh and that 10k could be legitimatly spent on performance enhancers not necessities to get it down the road.....

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[00t444e]

Not. That's the best part about six sevens, it doesn't require 10k in parts to make them fast. Oh and that 10k could be legitimatly spent on performance enhancers not necessities to get it down the road.....

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So a truck that's lighter and has more power won't be faster? Care to explain how? He was asking about a stock 6.7 vs putting 10K ito what he has now, which could put a 6.0 above 500 HP.

 

[SOOTIE]

So a truck that's lighter and has more power won't be faster? Care to explain how? He was asking about a stock 6.7 vs putting 10K ito what he has now, which could put a 6.0 above 500 HP.

Sorry I'm not a mind reader. You quoted my post challenging a six oh to have a go at mine. Let me assure you....the six oh better bring a hell of a lot more than 500hp to hang lol

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[DieselDC]

If he put 10K in his truck in addition to what he has already yes it will.

Same thing could be said if 10 was put into the 6.7. Stock for stock the 6.7 would eat the 6.0/6.4 wo a sweat.

If 10 into the 6.0 and a 6.7 left stock - I could set it somewhat capable.

Then you have the 6r140 to contend with. That slush box is a marvel compared ANY stock for stock - even the Allison.


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[00t444e]

Sorry I'm not a mind reader. You quoted my post challenging a six oh to have a go at mine. Let me assure you....the six oh better bring a hell of a lot more than 500hp to hang lol

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Yours must not be stock then, like I said before a tuned and deleted 6.7 would be better than a bulletproofed 6.0 in my opinion. A 15 and newer 6.7 can make over 500 HP with when tuned and deleted, the turbo on the 11-14 is a limiting factor and they generally make around 450 HP with a hot tune, based on the Dyno charts I have seen.

 

[00t444e]

Same thing could be said if 10 was put into the 6.7. Stock for stock the 6.7 would eat the 6.0/6.4 wo a sweat.

If 10 into the 6.0 and a 6.7 left stock - I could set it somewhat capable.

Then you have the 6r140 to contend with. That slush box is a marvel compared ANY stock for stock - even the Allison.

Yes but that is not what the OP was asking he was asking about a STOCK 6.7 vs putting 10K in his current 6.0. And yes the 6r140 is a great transmission but the 5r110 in the 6.0 is good also, both are better than the Allison when it comes to how much power they can handle in stock form.

 

[SOOTIE]

Yours must not be stock then, like I said before a tuned and deleted 6.7 would be better than a bulletproofed 6.0 in my opinion. A 15 and newer 6.7 can make over 500 HP with when tuned and deleted, the turbo on the 11-14 is a limiting factor and they generally make around 450 HP with a hot tune, based on the Dyno charts I have seen.

It sure isn't lol. But yea a tuned and deleted 6.7 over a 6.0 any day. I mean you can delete a 6.7 for under a thousand bucks if you shop the classifieds....

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[Red Ford]

I'd like to do the 6.7 front end but I'd have to bullet proof and lift the truck first, probably even do the interior first lol. If a full kit comes cheap enough I might but for now there's some better places for $2k to go.

 

[SparkyF250]

Not sure what I did but I got something right! Being in the union definitely jumps the wages, I'm a carpenter out of the local 30.

Been dealing with gold diggers for a bit lol, and I don't think I can fit into a Porsche 911.

I'm learning that I don't care what makes others happy because when the money stops flowing they leave. I just want a solid truck before I decide where I want to live and how much debt I want to get in. I'd like to stay in Washington but I have a feeling we're headed down the road California did and it's so expensive out here, my favorite place I've been so far is Myrtle beach so I've been thinking about moving out there. But you know... Hurricanes....

Anyway, say the house is already done and over, all I need to figure out is would a used higher mile 6.7 be a better platform than a bulletproofed 6.0? I'm leaning towards the 6.0 because in 10 years the 6.0 won't depreciate as much as the 6.7 will.

I guess another option would be to keep the truck as is and just hope it doesn't blow up but have the cash stored for if it does and get a little rat car to daily around.

^^^ This and then go back and rethink the house. If you buy one while you're young before you get married it's your no matter what. Unless you do something foolish like get married and put her name on the deed. Now if you lived in Commiefornia a judge might give her you house, but WA hasn't "progressed" that far yet.

I'd lean in that direction, but wouldn't buy a rat car. Get something nice that you actually enjoy driving and looking at. Think modern Mustang, Camaro, Infinity, Charger, Jeep Wrangler, whatever floats your boat. Car values drop a lot faster than trucks, and with the lower original MSRP, you can score a nice ride.

^^^ Again, this ^^^. You make great money, your truck is paid for and it's the one you said you always wanted. Get a toy and keep the truck.

I'd like to do the 6.7 front end but I'd have to bullet proof and lift the truck first, probably even do the interior first lol. If a full kit comes cheap enough I might but for now there's some better places for $2k to go.

Why the face lift? IMHO the 05-07 is the best looking Super Duty made.

 

[DieselDC]

I'd like to do the 6.7 front end but I'd have to bullet proof and lift the truck first, probably even do the interior first lol. If a full kit comes cheap enough I might but for now there's some better places for $2k to go.

I’m with you

07
15
17

Clearly I love the 17 stance a lot more.


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[Red Ford]

I love the '17 as well.

The 2011 front end is what made me go to Ford (and my grandpa would disown me if I got a Dodge or Chevy but that's beside the point", I like the 08-10 headlights better but the 2011-16 grill is what sells me.

I finally got the lights I want and I spent too much money on my bumper so the odds of doing a clip swap are pretty much 0 but you never know. I do think the 05-07 front end has that more muscle look than the newer trucks but these hoods are just so bland. I do line the center line because when my brother drives my truck he relys on that to stay centered in his lane lol. Pretty easy to teach someone to drive one of these, put the shoulder line inline with the center of the hood and you should be centered in your lane.

 

[john galt]

After rereading you first post more carefully, I say put 10K in your current truck and watch it run circles around the new 6.7s, there is nothing like having an older vehicle that will outperform a new one that costs 2-3 times as much. As far as making it look like a 6.7, it's a matter of opinion but I think the 05-07 trucks are the best looking Super Dutys Ford has built so far, I would leave it like it is.

SO much this :nod:

I'd like to do the 6.7 front end but I'd have to bullet proof and lift the truck first, probably even do the interior first lol. If a full kit comes cheap enough I might but for now there's some better places for $2k to go.

no way...i could almost see putting a 6.7 into an 05-07 but not taking one of the best looking trucks ever made and making it fugly
fugly i say the 08 up to 17 is fugly...
yea it grows on ya a bit but it shouldnt have to...

^^^ This and then go back and rethink the house. If you buy one while you're young before you get married it's your no matter what. Unless you do something foolish like get married and put her name on the deed. Now if you lived in Commiefornia a judge might give her you house, but WA hasn't "progressed" that far yet.



^^^ Again, this ^^^. You make great money, your truck is paid for and it's the one you said you always wanted. Get a toy and keep the truck.



Why the face lift? IMHO the 05-07 is the best looking Super Duty made.

he is ABSOLUTELY correct on all counts :nod:

I love the '17 as well.

The 2011 front end is what made me go to Ford (and my grandpa would disown me if I got a Dodge or Chevy but that's beside the point", I like the 08-10 headlights better but the 2011-16 grill is what sells me.

I finally got the lights I want and I spent too much money on my bumper so the odds of doing a clip swap are pretty much 0 but you never know. I do think the 05-07 front end has that more muscle look than the newer trucks but these hoods are just so bland. I do line the center line because when my brother drives my truck he relys on that to stay centered in his lane lol. Pretty easy to teach someone to drive one of these, put the shoulder line inline with the center of the hood and you should be centered in your lane.

the 6.7 is a good motor but i would not build one for power
didnt see any bilt for big numbers at ucc :look:
but keep it deleted and clean and dpf free and it would serve you well.
IF you wanted you could pick up a 15+ at auction that has been rolled and stuff the 6.7 into your truck and have an awesome dependable and unique truck with the 15 interior and motor and the 05-07 body :thumb:
but i say keep your clean and working stuff the cash for all the work you want done into an interest bearing account or just do it now as the cost of all that work is going up every year and fewer people are doing good work on the 6.0 as time goes by i believe.
again my opinion yours may vary (which would make you wrong oke ) :haha: